I’ve been reading Chile’s archives as my role as a bean stalk
(thanks Chile!) and was reminded of some challenges that were presented last year. Specifically, Crunchy’s no TP challenge.
Now that its been a year since I began blogging, I should probably write about why I chose to blog anonymously (as anonymous as one can be online anyway).
I had been looking for a blog that discussed two main topics that I am somewhat obsessed with: money and environmental issues. And I wanted to read detail. I wanted salary info, grocery tabs, tips, online articles, etc. I didn’t find that blog, so I started the blog I wanted to read. And quite frankly, I like reading my blog very, very much.
When I heard about the no TP challenge I wondered if I ought to admit that I didn’t use TP or even cloth wipes. One of the reasons I didn’t admit anything was because I still had mental scars from my initial days after I immigrated to the U.S. and was still open and vulnerable to criticism. As a new immigrant, I used hankies for snot (no matter how thick the snot was). I used my bare hand to wipe my bottom (with some water). Because that was how I was taught to clean up after doing my business in the toilet (which in my family was referred to as "london". There is also an open sewer in Madras that is referred to as Buckingham Canal…but this is getting a bit off topic).
So when I blew my nose into my hanky, I had to listen to the "ewws" and the "gross" comments. And since I was lonely and depressed and trying to fit in, I slowly switched to using tissue for my nose. It was a slow process because I couldn’t figure out how to use facial tissue. The material was flimsy and I often wound up with snot in my hands, and if I forgot to empty my pockets my clothes would be covered with a fine film of tissue particles. And I was very afraid of the Mr. Bean effect: a dangling bit of tissue hanging out from one nostril. But eventually I got the hang of using tissue for my nose and got into the habit of tossing it out after one use.
But try as I could, I could not figure out how to use toilet paper to wipe myself. Especially after #2. It was way more messy and I thought it was gross to not use water to wash up. And its a good thing that there were no judgemental people watching me clean up after myself, because that would have been too traumatizing.
This non-tp use wasn’t a problem for a while. But then I started to make friends. Which led to invitations to spend nights or weekends over. Which led to panic attacks. Will they ask questions if I take a bottle or mug to the toilet with me? How do I explain this? So what did I do? I turned down the invitations. Not using tp was my dark dirty little secret.
Until I started to run across these online environmental bloggers. And note that while I am not a very affectionate person, I wanted to reach out and hug these people wanting to get away from TP usage.
Anyway…personally I think cloth wipes for #2 are a bit gross. Knowing how lazy I am, if I used wipes they would probably lie around being stinky and grossing me out. I like using my little bottle of water. Its most comfortable for me and I think the most hygenic. For first time users, you can always hop into the shower for a better clean if you don’t trust your left hand to do the job well.
However….growing up in my parents house we had a bidet. It was only when I went over to grandma’s that I had to use the water-hand method.
As for me trying to fit in and be liked…I gave up on that idea a while back. I was very weird when I was growing up, and I am weird today. So I was pleasantly surprised to encounter all these people online blogging about stuff that I think about and used to be too scared to talk about for fear of alienating even more people. Sometimes I almost want to hug everyone, but then I remember my issue about touching people and the fact that I don’t actually know any of these bloggers. But I’ll give a little online *hug* to everyone on my blogroll, for making me feel really warm and fuzzy inside (the sangria I’m drinking now has also contributed to that feeling).
Its probably weird to be giving thanks to my bloggy friends in a post about toilet habits…but if all this peak-oil/sky-is-falling people are right, we might have to get close and intimate with our poo. And I guess environmentalists will be leading the way.






I admit, I personally wouldn’t do the cloth wipe thing either, but to each his own.
I am excited to go to India soon and finally not have to make everyone buy toilet paper special for me!
Comment by arduous — May 30, 2008 @ 12:14 pm
P.S. Beany, we need you to weigh in on some stuff so check your blog email acct!!
Comment by arduous — May 30, 2008 @ 12:46 pm
Thanks for posing about this. I’m on the opposite extreme where I have trouble imagining how to do things WITHOUT toilet paper. I just assumed you wiped with a towel or something and then just left them all in a basket (reeking) until someone got around to trying to wash the nasty things. Yuk! I’m not sure I’m ready to go this route, but at least I know now, how others do with out TP. Makes more sense.
Comment by Heather @ SGF — May 30, 2008 @ 12:56 pm
Oh, hugs to you and your non-TP self. I might have said ewww at one point in my life, but I think I’m much more Zen about the diversity of how people handle their business.
My husband is from Greece, and that was my first exposure to a bidet. I thought it was AMAZING!
We still use TP, but I now use cloth wipes for #1 whenever possible but still use TP for #2. I was able to eliminate baby wipes with my boys by switching to cloth wipes. (When we still used them).
We just rinsed after and then washed the cloths. If we have another baby I will do the same and use cloth diapers.
I used to think “EWWW” about a few of my husband’s family habits, but actually grew to learn a good deal. Those included less clothes washing, multiple wears of your clothes, etc. It is actually much more frugal and enviro friendly when you just change your lens on how you think.
So cease the ewww- - -we can all learn alot from each other.
My new co-worker is from India, and we are learning so much from each other! Shannon
Comment by Going Crunchy — May 30, 2008 @ 6:16 pm
We use cloth wipes for our baby. We have a steel trash can with a flip-lid and cloth diaper bag liner. When it gets full, we empty the whole mess in the washing machine. With the lid on the can closed, it doesn’t get noticeably stinky in the 1-2 day period between washings. I suppose cloth TP for adults could be treated similarly, but we’re still a paper TP household.
Comment by Jim — May 30, 2008 @ 11:44 pm
I use bandanas as my cloth tp (only for #1). I hang the bandana near the toilet. I re-use the bandana many times before washing. It doesn’t smell that I can notice. However, it’s very arid where I live, and the bandana dries fast — before the next use, certainly, most of the time. In a more humid environment that might not work. And it might not be very aesthetic-looking, but in my one-person household, no one is complaining!
I also have difficulty understanding the details of how it works to not use any cloth or paper. I know it’s common across much of the world, but never having been shown or seen that cultural tidbit, I can only think of all the grungy little questions about how it works, like what if you need a second wipe to get clean, and how do you get dry? In spite of my unfamiliarity, I certainly consider it an option, and one that will probably spread to new parts of the world in the coming times of resource shortages. Thanks for sharing on such a tender topic!
Comment by Sue in the Western Great Basin — May 31, 2008 @ 1:16 am
Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts.
So should I write a tutorial on how to wash up? I guess I will because if I didn’t know how to do it, I would want to know how.
So here is a tutorial how to use water to wash up after #2 while sitting on a western style toilet.
I don’t know how people do their business on the toilet, but my husband almost always does it before a shower (he is a TP user whom I have to teach the way of the water), so he is naked. If you’re going to be splashing water as a beginner, you need to get the shirt flap out of the way.
I imagine using a squirt bottle might make it easier. Water is held in the right hand and left hand is ready for use. I splash and wash from the front by spreading my legs out wide so I have room. So it works like this: splash while wiping and repeat until it feels clean. If you’ve cleaned baby butts, its the same concept. I use more water if I need it. I’ve always had the toilet close to a wash basin/sink so I just lean over and fill up the water container.
I’ll make a guess and say that everyone cleans up up their private parts when in the shower. So whatever your hands are doing in the shower, its the same idea on the toilet.
I think if you have a hose, or a hand shower, one could use it like a bidet over the toilet.
When I’m almost done, I soap up my hands before finishing up and do one final clean. Then I sit for a while and wait for all the water to drip and then wipe all the water up. I suppose TP can be used to wipe up the water.
Comment by Beany — May 31, 2008 @ 7:20 am
Thanks for the tutorial, Beany. It’s always helpful to read actual details on process, at least for me. For those who want to use cloth, Sara wrote about her process a while back.
Comment by Chile — June 2, 2008 @ 10:50 am